Traveller-digest    Wednesday, September 1 1999    Volume 1999 : Number 1046



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

FW: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)
Re: New Traveller Auction
Re: New Traveller Auction (AAaaaaarrrgghh!!!)
RE: 101 ships
Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1045
RE: Lost Keith Supplements
Re: Some From The Vaults 
Re: Here it is...
RE: Megatraveller CDs
Re: Stats for an Honor Harrington setting in Trav? (was Re: Honor Harrington Books)
Re: Here it is...
Re: Some From The Vaults 
Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft
tank:antitank arms race
Re: tank:antitank arms race
Re: tank:antitank arms race
Re: "Tender"/"Riders" combos as freighters
Re: Honor Harrington books
RE: Lost Keith Supplements
I'm back....
TNEC PBEM Log Update
[Rules] Jump Drives / HG2 (was Re: 101 Starships)
Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft
Re: Some From The Vaults 
Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:46:08 +0800
From: "Antony Farrell" <Skaran@bigpond.com>
Subject: FW: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
[mailto:owner-traveller@lists.imagiconline.com] On Behalf Of Leonard
Erickson
Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 10:31
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
Subject: Re: Thrust effects (was HEPlar lives!)


In mail you write:

>>> Like craft shaped like hollow cylinders, or box-kites?
>>
>>Like bridges, oil rigs, construction cranes...
>
>
> I wouldn't want to fly any of the above.

But they *do* distribute wind loads "evenly". And they have been moved
in moderate winds. Thus showing that a "slow" landing may be possible,
if tricky.

I'm sorry sir, you can't land that here, it doesn't meet our occupational
health and safety guidelines, please dock at the highport.

Antony

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:01:38 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Re: New Traveller Auction

> ??? Snapshot boxed set, 1979 edition, good condition
> box corner torn, cover of rules booklet torn at bottom
> minimum bid $3

$4

> 104 Invasion: Earth boxed set, 1981 edition, unpunched
> includes counter tray and dice, excellent condition
> minimum bid $10

$20
 
> 251 Traveller "starter" boxed set, 1983 edition, excellent condition
> minimum bid $5

$5
 
> 301 Traveller boxed set, includes Books 1-3, 1981 edition
> boxed scuffed, fair condition, books inside excellent condition
> minimum bid $5

$5
 
> 409 Dark Nebula boxed set, 1980 edition, punched and in trays, 
> excellent condition
> minimum bid $5

$6
 
> 822 Fifth Frontier War, 1981 edition, punched and in trays,
> excellent condition
> minimum bid $15

$20
 

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:14:24 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Re: New Traveller Auction (AAaaaaarrrgghh!!!)

<Sigh> I promised myself I wouldn't do that...  Blame it on the lack of
coffee... time for a second cup.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The TRAVELLER Domain
http://www.downport.com
Colin Michael, Webslinger

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Sword Worlder <swordworlder@clinic.net>

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:42:05 -0400
From: Thomas Jones-Low <tjoneslo@softstart.com>
Subject: RE: 101 ships

	In Supplement 9/Fighting Ships there is a Jump Ship which is 5000
dTons, jump-6, and designed to haul 1000 dTon modules, with each one
dropping the jump number. I always liked the concept, but haven't done
the design for GT yet, and not sure how to make the Jump system work.

- -- 
	Thomas Jones-Low
	tjoneslo@softstart.com

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 8:34:25 CDT
From: Don McKinney <dmckinne@itds.com>
Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1045

> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 05:20:26 -0500
> From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net>
> Subject: Re: New Traveller Auction
> 
> Don McKinney wrote:
> > 
> > Before I post this to the Usenet groups, I'm offering this stuff
> > here first!
> 
> One question:
> 
> How can we find out the progress of bidding on various items?

I send e-mail updates to all bidders :)


DonM.
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:00:26 -0500 
From: "Smart, David J (David)" <dasmart@lucent.com>
Subject: RE: Lost Keith Supplements

Eric T.  or  Maryann C. Holmes posted:
>
> Fellow TMLers:
>
> Has anyone heard from Paul Sanders on his Keith Supplement project???

Not a peep for months now. I truly don't know what's going on; he's
always been helpful and speedy to ship items I've bought in the past.

Although I don't know him personally, I've been willing to cut him
some slack because he's taking university classes but I admit I'm
deeply disappointed in the lack of product or at least monthly updates
from him. $100.00 isn't pocket change to me nor is it, I suspect, for
most of the TMLers who have paid him.


- -------------------
David Smart
Software Engineer
Lucent Technologies

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:28:03 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Some From The Vaults 

Kevin, check the time I posted that message about your server..I've been
downloading since 10 minutes before I posted that, and RIGHT NOW, I am 45%
down with the first download..:)
___________________________________________________________
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 ICQ# 2843475
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 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:08:06 -0500
From: Kenneth Bearden -- Walker Jane Productions <dreamer@brokersys.com>
Subject: Re: Here it is...

Phil Kitching wrote:

> I wasn't referring to that mechanism, I was referring to something
> like:
>
>         you can either use those 3xp to improve Vacc Suit from 2 to 3,
>         or you can use them to stop Pilot 6 becomming Pilot 5.
>         With a limit that no skill ever falls below half its peak value.

Interesting idea, but my goal with the experience system was to mirror
character generation.  It's nice, in Traveller, to know the character's whole
life by knowing where he's been (especially in advanced, year by year,
character gen) and where he's going (actual role playing).

Since there is not a way to loose skill in character gen, I don't see
complicating the system and bugging the players about their skill levels going
down.

Besides, at 34+, they've got to roll on their stats every 4 years or loose a
point for age.

Kenneth.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:17:21 -0600 
From: Steve Deemer <stedee@AUTO-TROL.com>
Subject: RE: Megatraveller CDs

Nick, just got that CD you sent yesterday! Thank you, I'd never
actually seen these games before. Is there anything you're looking
for that I can help you with?

Steve Deemer

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nicholas Wright [SMTP:Nick@corlecca.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:31 PM
> To:	TML
> Subject:	Megatraveller CDs
> 
> I have six CDs of the two Empire Megatraveller Programmes "The Zhodani
> Conspiracy" and "Quest for the Ancients" if anybody wants one.  These are
> the real McCoy still in wrappers.
> 
> If anyone wants one reply off list and I will put one in the post to you.
> If
> I get killed in the rush I'll see if I can get some more.
> 
> I remain etc, etc.
> 
> Nick Wright
> 

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:27:28 -0400
From: Walter Smith <SmithW@HARTWICK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Stats for an Honor Harrington setting in Trav? (was Re: Honor Harrington Books)

Leonard Erickson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
BTW, I don't believe that fusion reactors will go "boom" the way Weber
has them doing. 
>>>>>>>>>>
I recall from a previous discussion:

Perhaps Weber's idea of a hyper-advanced fusion reactor is a fusion
explosion - like one would get from an exploding fusion bomb - kept
under extreme pressure by the gravitics technology available in Weber's
Harrington universe. 

I have no idea if the above makes sense from a physics point of view.
It may depend on how much power it takes for gravitics to operate,
compared to what you can tap from the explosion.

Walt Smith

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:40:15 +0100
From: Phil Kitching <postmark.design@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Here it is...

At 10:08 01/09/1999 -0500, Kenneth Bearden wrote:
>
>
>Phil Kitching wrote:
>
>> I wasn't referring to that mechanism, I was referring to something
>> like:
>>
>>         you can either use those 3xp to improve Vacc Suit from 2 to 3,
>>         or you can use them to stop Pilot 6 becomming Pilot 5.
>>         With a limit that no skill ever falls below half its peak value.
>
>Interesting idea, but my goal with the experience system was to mirror
>character generation.  It's nice, in Traveller, to know the character's whole
>life by knowing where he's been (especially in advanced, year by year,
>character gen) and where he's going (actual role playing).
>
>Since there is not a way to loose skill in character gen, I don't see
>complicating the system and bugging the players about their skill levels
going
>down.

I can't argue with any of that.

I certainly wouldn't feel up to introducing such a scheme to the group
that I game with.

Phil Kitching
- --
  http://www.btinternet.com/~salvo/
  Postmark Design Bureau, Emerging Technologies Division.
 "Microwaving half-baked ideas from across the Galaxy"

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:33:30 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Some From The Vaults 

> Kevin, check the time I posted that message about your server..I've been
> downloading since 10 minutes before I posted that, and RIGHT NOW, I am 45%
> down with the first download..:)

And I say again, Crosswinds is *NOT* under my control.  It's the *ONLY* place I could find in a hurry to put that stuff up.  We're talking over 7.3 *MEGS* of files.  My ISP allows me *TWO* megs.  Period.  And they're screaming at me for spending a ton of time online through a dialup.

Keven

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                                                     In Reavers' Deep

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kiri Aradia Morgan <tiamat@tsoft.com>
Subject: Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cynthia Higginbotham wrote:

> Another DBZ fan?  I've gotten hooked on the series watching
> it with my daughter on the Cartoon Network.  That and "Reboot"...
> (She's also a Sailor Moon addict, but there's only so much of
> that ditzy blonde I can stomach.  However, got to admit S.M is
> a refreshing change from all those angst-ridden Marvel comics I 
> used to read years ago...).
> 
> BTW, one can get pointers from both Reboot and DBZ on how to
> design memorable NPC villains.  Who can forget that cocky
> little sociopath Vegeta, or chaotic Hexadecimal, or the ruthless,
> scheming Megabyte?
> 
Are they showing Third Season Reboot, from Canada?  It's excellent. Really
deep stories and character development.

Unfortunately, the English translation of Sailor Moon is abysmal.  I speak
Japanese, rather badly I must admit... but enough so that having watched
the originals, the American version is enough to make me cry.  It really
was an excellent show (although the monster of the week bits got silly at
times... the manga is FANTASTIC).  But it's more fantasy than SF, fair
warning.  There is a fairly decent manga translation from Mixx
Publications if you can stomach the fact that they use hiphop slang all
thru it.  I think this is sad, because the story is classic and shouldn't
be dated.  The ditzy blonde is ditzy cause she's only 14 and has just been
informed that she has to fight demons...  She gets better in the later
seasons, but you'll never see them in the US because Uranus and Neptune
are openly lesbian.

Kiri

PS: Kenji Schwarz? Interesting, another person with a Japanese first name
and a hakujin surname...  (I'm *mostly* hakujin myself...)

******************************************************************************
Kiri Aradia Morgan	 93!	  Thou Art God 
tiamat@tsoft.com

"If time passes, everything turns into beauty
If the rains stop, tears clean the scars of memory away
Everything starts wearing fresh colors
Every sound begins playing a heartfelt melody
Jealousy embellishes a page of the epic
Desire is embraced in a dream..."              -- X-JAPAN 

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:42:01 -0400
From: Ian Ferguson <ian@vax2.concordia.ca>
Subject: tank:antitank arms race

I have a question regarding the progression of AFV armour and antitank
weapons: just how tough is it for a TL 9 gun to destroy an AFV built to TL
10? TL 11?  When does it become essentially impossible to knock out an AFV?
 Under normal circumstances, I would expect that a WWII German "Hunting
Tiger" with 120 mm gun has little or no chance of killing an US Abrams
tank.  Opinions?

Peez

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Jackson <ajackson@molly.iii.com>
Subject: Re: tank:antitank arms race

Ian Ferguson writes:
> I have a question regarding the progression of AFV armour and antitank
> weapons: just how tough is it for a TL 9 gun to destroy an AFV built to TL
> 10? TL 11?  When does it become essentially impossible to knock out an AFV?
>  Under normal circumstances, I would expect that a WWII German "Hunting
> Tiger" with 120 mm gun has little or no chance of killing an US Abrams
> tank.  Opinions?

It depends somewhat on the design philosophy behind the vehicle (for TL 9 vs
TL 11, I have no idea offhand).  No WWII tank has a noticeable chance of
killing an Abrams (or any modern MBT) from the front.  Any of them can kill an
abrams from the side or rear.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Jackson <ajackson@molly.iii.com>
Subject: Re: tank:antitank arms race

Ian Ferguson writes:
> I have a question regarding the progression of AFV armour and antitank
> weapons: just how tough is it for a TL 9 gun to destroy an AFV built to TL
> 10? TL 11?  When does it become essentially impossible to knock out an AFV?
>  Under normal circumstances, I would expect that a WWII German "Hunting
> Tiger" with 120 mm gun has little or no chance of killing an US Abrams
> tank.  Opinions?

It depends somewhat on the design philosophy behind the vehicle (for TL 9 vs
TL 11, I have no idea offhand).  No WWII tank has a noticeable chance of
killing an Abrams (or any modern MBT) from the front.  Any of them can kill an
abrams from the side or rear.

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:06:15 -0700
From: shudson@lightspeed.bc.ca (Steven Hudson)
Subject: Re: "Tender"/"Riders" combos as freighters

>From: "Legate Legion" <legate@futureone.com>
>Subject: Re: "Tender"/"Riders" combos as freighters
...
>>  TCS has basic rules on linking ships' controls for Jumps, but it doesn't
>>allow J-drive linkages; the strong implication is that it's impractical.
...
>    And, yet the idea is canon.  *weg*  Sorry, "Death of the Singing Star",
>IIRC is a canon source for Traveller.

  Sure, if you feel that a Judges Guild product filled with ideas from the
merely highly dubious to the somewhat laughable is reliable. What are your
thoughts on "Lomodo"?

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 19:15:35 +0100
From: Chris Thompson <u12ct@abdn.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Honor Harrington books

where can I find more than this and why does it not have a link on
www.baen.com?

Peter Newman wrote:
> 
> A draft copy of Chapter 1 of the new, NYR
> Honor Harrington hardcover, Ashes of Honor
> is available from her publisher, Baen, at
> the URL below.  Baen will probably post a
> new chapter every few weeks or so until the
> book is releases (no I don't know when that will
> be).
> 
> http://www.baen.com/chapters/Ashes/0671578xxx__1.htm

- -- 
Chris T
If I should fall to rise no more
As many comrades did before 
Then ask the fifes and drums to play
Over the hill and far away

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:28:32 -0700
From: Jerry Paul Sanders <timmon@primenet.com>
Subject: RE: Lost Keith Supplements

Actually, I posted updates and many people missed them and then said I
never posted updates...  which is why I made a web site... and then
apparently many folks missed the post about the site :P 

The 'latest' update is at the web site -
www.primenet.com/~timmon/supplements.html

Which has NOT had anything new added to it in a little over a month because
there was nothing new to add until a few days ago which is when I sent all
manuscripts off to a friend to proof 'em for me - I've stared at 'em so
long I'm sure I've missed many typos, so hopefully he will catch most of
'em before I start the final printing in slightly over a week. 

Come hell or high water they are shipping this month. The quality may
suffer, but just as you folks are understandably weary (sick?) of waiting
on 'em, I am weary (sick!) of working on 'em. Again, I apologize for delay
upon delay folks. This has been a learning experience, and in a way I am
thankful that neither Andrew or Bill have any further manuscripts laying
around, because I know I certainly will never get involved in such a
project ever again.

And for the few folks who have written asking for refunds - no can do. The
money is already spent - either on paying Marc and Andrew or on material.
You'll get your copies and what you do with 'em is up to you. Before I get
flamed off-line again from persons who will remain nameless renewed with
threats of lawsuits to shut down 'Cargonaut Press' and take all its assets
(this seems to happen every time someone asks the status of the books on
the TML), let me just state that there is no 'Cargonaut Press' - I'm just a
TML-old one working out of his home-office...and the landlady would likely
take exception to your taking the room its located in (but your welcome to
go for the 486 computer as you'd likely be doing me a favor). 

Seriously though - I have been on the TML since its inception. I've sold
hundreds of dollars of used Traveller items to folks on the TML over the
years and have never ripped anyone off, and I am not about to start now.
Contrary to the repeated emails I've received, the manuscripts do exist -
Bryan Borich has copies of all of 'em except SCAM and can attest to their
existence. The books ship this month - period. They won't be up to BITS
quality (although I've tried), but they will be considerably better than
the initial LOM release of a year ago.

To hopefully make up for the delay (in a very minor way), Andrew and I have
came up with a manila-envelope that contains several props that tie-in to
the supplements and I think most folks will enjoy them. It's not much to
compensate for the repeated delays, but it's something, and hopefully will
have made the wait a little more bearable once you do have the package in
your hands.

Cordially,
Paul Sanders

At 09:00 AM 9/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Eric T.  or  Maryann C. Holmes posted:
>>
>> Fellow TMLers:
>>
>> Has anyone heard from Paul Sanders on his Keith Supplement project???
>
>Not a peep for months now. I truly don't know what's going on; he's
>always been helpful and speedy to ship items I've bought in the past.
>
>Although I don't know him personally, I've been willing to cut him
>some slack because he's taking university classes but I admit I'm
>deeply disappointed in the lack of product or at least monthly updates
>from him. $100.00 isn't pocket change to me nor is it, I suspect, for
>most of the TMLers who have paid him.
>
>
>-------------------
>David Smart
>Software Engineer
>Lucent Technologies
> 

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:24:24
From: "Douglas E. Berry" <gridlore@mindspring.com>
Subject: I'm back....

Going without email for two weeks was a harrowing experience.  My ISP
decided to royally piss me off by first fouling up a simple upgrade,
causing a week's outage, then by failing to inform me that they weren't
going to support my software, modem or OS any more.  Good-bye, Hooked!

ObTrav: The party discovers that a crucial component of their ships was
made by a long-defunct manufacturer, and nobody provides support for this
model.  They learn this, of course, *after* it fails.
- -- 

Doug Berry       gridlore@mindspring.com
Web pages temporarily unavalible

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 15:49:39 -0300
From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
Subject: TNEC PBEM Log Update

        The latest installment of the TNEC PBEM finally made it onto the
website for those who have been following along.

        I might also have an opening in a week or so...  I'll post if this
comes to pass.

        "http://www.atlantic-online.ns.ca/traveller"...  pick the "TNEC
Info" button and then "Saviour's Race" from the page TOC.

        --Michel

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:54:50 -0700
From: shudson@lightspeed.bc.ca (Steven Hudson)
Subject: [Rules] Jump Drives / HG2 (was Re: 101 Starships)

>From: Phil Kitching <postmark.design@btinternet.com>
>Subject: Re: 101 Starships
...
>If your 10kt ship was jump-6 then you could argue connecting one
>to the 50kt frame an achieving jump-1 as backup, but giving the 50kt
>frame J-3 and needing to bolt on 10kt ships with their own J-3 drives
>for a combined J-3 ability seems totally out.

Jump drive components:

  FWIW, we know that under CT (HG2, naturally) the formula for a Jump
drive installation is: % = Jn+1. We also know that the capacitor
establishment is (HG2, p. 42) 0.5%MJn, or % = Jn/2.

  We can assume that the basic 1% (above) is the fixed hull components
("hull grid" for MT revisionists, something else*, internal, for CT); a
note needs to be made that we have to assume that all of these systems
cost around the same per unit volume (otherwise MCr/Dt/drive would vary
as do M-drives per p. 23).

  * I assume lanthanum coils per CT text and charts.

  We could assume that much of the remaining undiscovered 0.5% per Jn is 
pumps for the L-Hyd, which after all must be shovelled somewhere during
a relatively inflexible timeframe. Luckily, this too costs ~MCr 4.0/Dt :>

  As the capacitor banks hit Cr 800/kg even if only 5m^3 of each Dt is
counted (at 1kg/liter), and unfinished zuchai crystals run Cr 1000/kg, 
then we could avoid the entire morass of the uber-capacitors by assuming 
that the integral jump drive capacitors are actually fairly low energy
density, but that some other characteristic (see SOM?; DGP wrote prose
hand-waving so much better than they did rules) is what matters. Heck,
at least that would explain why they don't get smaller with TL increases.

  We still have to ignore what the 500 MW/turns per 100 Dt(Jn) are in aid
of, but we can't really solve it. Maybe you need to warm up the L-Hyd as 
it is dumped into Jumpspace? :>

  The problem with bolting a 5 or 10 KT J-6 drive module (e.g. S:9's Jump
Ship) onto a large cargo module is that allowing such automatically violates
the ship construction rules for lower J# ships, i.e., a J-1 10 KT ship has
200 D-t of J-drive at MCr 800, while a 2500 Dt J4 drive module permanently
mated to a 7500 Dt payload section (net total 10 KT displacement) could claim
to be a J-1 performance combination but requiring only 125 D-t of J-drive at
a cost of MCr 500. If allowed, such a technique would shortly be standard.

        Steven Hudson
 
The CT Creed: "There is no Game but Traveller, and High Guard is its' Product"
        (but Space 1889 is quite cool, too)

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:28:13 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft

>Unfortunately, the English translation of Sailor Moon is abysmal.  I speak
>Japanese, rather badly I must admit... but enough so that having watched
>the originals, the American version is enough to make me cry.  It really
>was an excellent show (although the monster of the week bits got silly at
>times... the manga is FANTASTIC).  But it's more fantasy than SF, fair
>warning.  There is a fairly decent manga translation from Mixx


Same with Samurai Pizza Cats..The translated dialog is wretched beyond
belief.


>The ditzy blonde is ditzy cause she's only 14 and has just been
>informed that she has to fight demons...  She gets better in the later
>seasons, but you'll never see them in the US because Uranus and Neptune
>are openly lesbian.


I'm not gay but I am sure getting tired of the xenophobic attitude in the
U.S. to things that aren't supported by the 'main' portion of the
population.  Are they afraid that seeing two CARTOON girls together will
make everyone in the U.S. gay?  Oh come on now..


___________________________________________________________
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 ICQ# 2843475
 New Hampshire - U.S.A.
 Email : j-man@iname.com
 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/
___________________________________________________________

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:31:32 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Some From The Vaults 

>And I say again, Crosswinds is *NOT* under my control.  It's the *ONLY*
place I could find in a hurry to put that stuff up.  We're talking over >7.3
*MEGS* of files.  My ISP allows me *TWO* megs.  Period.  And they're
screaming at me for spending a ton of time online through a >dialup.

I'm not after *you* about this..Its just I can't believe the low
bandwidth..Right now I am still downloading..hehe..Reminds me of the time I
downloaded "Wing Commander : Prophecy" on a 28.8 modem.  That was SAD.
Especially since I was using AOL at the time and they cut me off in the
middle of the download..(total was 60 megs I think).  Just another reason I
hate AOL.  :)


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 J-Man
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 New Hampshire - U.S.A.
 Email : j-man@iname.com
 Home Page : http://www.geocities.com/~jman037/
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:29:15
From: "Douglas E. Berry" <gridlore@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants, Faster Combat Craft

At 03:28 PM 9/1/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>I'm not gay but I am sure getting tired of the xenophobic attitude in the
>U.S. to things that aren't supported by the 'main' portion of the
>population.  Are they afraid that seeing two CARTOON girls together will
>make everyone in the U.S. gay?  Oh come on now..

Evidently, to hear the US Army tell it, my continued presence would have
resulted in the collapse of the Republic at the very least!
- -- 

Doug Berry       gridlore@mindspring.com
Web pages temporarily unavalible

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